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title: "Artist Talk"
date: 2025-12-16
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# Artist Talk

- ![Portrait of a couple in front of a blue and white tiled wall, both smiling at the camera.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/WdB_Barbara-Wagner-Benjamin-de-Burca-2025_-Cortesia-dos-artistas-e-Fortes-DAloia-Gabriel_01.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca

2025
- ![](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024-portrait-katharinadohm-final-web-01.jpg)

SCHIRN Kuratorin Katharina Dohm

© Schirn Kunsthalle Frankfurt 2024, Foto: Diana Pfammatter
- ![A young person presents a cassette titled "The Future of Yesterday" in a creative design.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Schirn_Presse_Wagner_DeBurca_Filmstill_Future_of_Yesterday_3.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca, Future of Yesterday, 2026, film still

© Courtesy of the artists, Fortes D’Aloia &amp; Gabriel, São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro, and Juli Film
- ![Portrait of a couple in front of a blue and white tiled wall, both smiling at the camera.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/WdB_Barbara-Wagner-Benjamin-de-Burca-2025_-Cortesia-dos-artistas-e-Fortes-DAloia-Gabriel_01.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca

2025
- ![](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024-portrait-katharinadohm-final-web-01.jpg)

SCHIRN Kuratorin Katharina Dohm

© Schirn Kunsthalle Frankfurt 2024, Foto: Diana Pfammatter
- ![A young person presents a cassette titled "The Future of Yesterday" in a creative design.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Schirn_Presse_Wagner_DeBurca_Filmstill_Future_of_Yesterday_3.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca, Future of Yesterday, 2026, film still

© Courtesy of the artists, Fortes D’Aloia &amp; Gabriel, São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro, and Juli Film
- ![Portrait of a couple in front of a blue and white tiled wall, both smiling at the camera.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/WdB_Barbara-Wagner-Benjamin-de-Burca-2025_-Cortesia-dos-artistas-e-Fortes-DAloia-Gabriel_01.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca

2025
- ![](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024-portrait-katharinadohm-final-web-01.jpg)

SCHIRN Kuratorin Katharina Dohm

© Schirn Kunsthalle Frankfurt 2024, Foto: Diana Pfammatter
- ![A young person presents a cassette titled "The Future of Yesterday" in a creative design.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Schirn_Presse_Wagner_DeBurca_Filmstill_Future_of_Yesterday_3.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca, Future of Yesterday, 2026, film still

© Courtesy of the artists, Fortes D’Aloia &amp; Gabriel, São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro, and Juli Film
- ![Portrait of a couple in front of a blue and white tiled wall, both smiling at the camera.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/WdB_Barbara-Wagner-Benjamin-de-Burca-2025_-Cortesia-dos-artistas-e-Fortes-DAloia-Gabriel_01.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca

2025
- ![](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024-portrait-katharinadohm-final-web-01.jpg)

SCHIRN Kuratorin Katharina Dohm

© Schirn Kunsthalle Frankfurt 2024, Foto: Diana Pfammatter
- ![A young person presents a cassette titled "The Future of Yesterday" in a creative design.](https://www.schirn.de/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Schirn_Presse_Wagner_DeBurca_Filmstill_Future_of_Yesterday_3.jpg)

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca, Future of Yesterday, 2026, film still

© Courtesy of the artists, Fortes D’Aloia &amp; Gabriel, São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro, and Juli Film

Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca talk with curator Katharina Dohm about the works and the creation process of the new piece.

[  Termin wählen und reservieren ](https://schirn.ticketfritz.de)

**When** Thursday, January 29, 2026, 7 PM

**Notes** Limited number of seats

The SCHIRN presents the first major solo exhibition in Germany by the artist duo Bárbara Wagner &amp; Benjamin de Burca. At the center of the exhibition is a newly developed production created specifically for this occasion. This video installation focuses on the current hardcore scene and, in particular, on Straight Edge (or “sXe”) in Germany – a movement that began on the U.S. East Coast as a “clean” counterculture within the post-hardcore punk scene of the 1980s.